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Send message Joined: 5 Sep 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 1,497,578 RAC: 0 |
Hi, we are going to have more and more numbers processed. So the list will grow in the Status page. What do you think about adding a new column to indicate the data of the factorization? I don't think it's too complicated and will give some chronological information about the project. |
Send message Joined: 26 Jun 08 Posts: 645 Credit: 472,396,898 RAC: 255,608 |
Good idea. We are currently getting about one result per week now, and the date will help monitor that rate. |
Send message Joined: 16 Oct 09 Posts: 46 Credit: 833,166 RAC: 1 |
I am new to this project what do you mean by "We are currently getting about one result per week"? When I joined this project I returned 3 tasks within about, are tasks not classed as a result? If this is the case how many tasks dose it take to get a result? |
Send message Joined: 26 Sep 09 Posts: 218 Credit: 22,841,893 RAC: 3 |
Greg, By reading the previous post I think it's time to explain somewhere on the front page what part of factoring is BOINC doing. Find poly Sieve (BOINC) Linear Algebra (filtering, matrix construction, matrix solution, square roots) (Post-processing) Carlos |
Send message Joined: 26 Jun 08 Posts: 645 Credit: 472,396,898 RAC: 255,608 |
I am new to this project what do you mean by "We are currently getting about one result per week"? When I joined this project I returned 3 tasks within about, are tasks not classed as a result? If this is the case how many tasks dose it take to get a result? Sorry, my reply was confusing. The goal of NFS@Home is to factor large numbers using the Number Field Sieve algorithm. After setting up two polynomials and various parameters, the project participants "sieve" the polynomials to find values of two variables, called "relations," such that the values of both polynomials are completely factored. Each workunit finds a small number of relations, typically a bit less than 2,000, and returns them. The current factorization involves 127,500 workunits. Once these are returned, I combine all of the relations together into one large file then start the "postprocessing." The postprocessing involves combining primes from the relations to eliminate as many as possible, constructing a matrix from those remaining, solving this matrix, then performing square roots of the products of the relations indicated by the solutions to the matrix. The end result is the factors of the number. Currently, we are factoring about one number each week. All factors are linked from the status page. For a (much) more technical description of the NFS, see the Wikipedia article or Briggs' Master's thesis. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 1,497,578 RAC: 0 |
Good idea. We are currently getting about one result per week now, and the date will help monitor that rate. Already done! You're fast :) Thanks for the update. |
Send message Joined: 2 Oct 09 Posts: 50 Credit: 111,128,218 RAC: 0 |
Good idea. We are currently getting about one result per week now, and the date will help monitor that rate. There seems to still be space on the status page, perhaps we could have the size of the prime factors? One of the things SNFS factorization is good for is that it checks the performance of ECM pretesting (it's hardly ever ECM "factoring", in this range). Too many factorizations where the smallest prime factor was out of ECM range, and it's hard to keep pushing up the effort. While an "ECM miss" (a 53-digit prime factor, or a 54-digit prime factor, after sufficient testing to remove 55-digit primes to 80%) is less expensive than a miss in GNFS. And yes, Greg's fast. -bdodson Cunningham "Champion" SNFS factorizations with Greg:
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Send message Joined: 26 Jun 08 Posts: 645 Credit: 472,396,898 RAC: 255,608 |
perhaps we could have the size of the prime factors? Done. |
Send message Joined: 17 Sep 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 540,914 RAC: 0 |
You should invert the list so the latest stuff is at the top ... as it is, as it grows you will have to page down to see the most current information... Best to do it now when there is not that many entries ... |
Send message Joined: 26 Jun 08 Posts: 645 Credit: 472,396,898 RAC: 255,608 |
Actually I prefer chronological order even if it means scrolling, but I know I'm in the minority. I'll change it. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 09 Posts: 2 Credit: 255,803 RAC: 0 |
A request: A column with the difficulty of the numbers. Thanks for a smooth running project! |
Send message Joined: 26 Jun 08 Posts: 645 Credit: 472,396,898 RAC: 255,608 |
Actually, that's on my todo list. |
Send message Joined: 17 Sep 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 540,914 RAC: 0 |
Actually I prefer chronological order even if it means scrolling, but I know I'm in the minority. I'll change it. Thank you ... Or you could make two lists ... :) |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 1,497,578 RAC: 0 |
Hi, still change to ask for :) As the number of factored number is growing, could you add on top of the page a line to summarize the current status, something like: Factored: 15 - PostProcessing: 5 - Sieving: 3 At least the first information is really important. Thanks Ludovic |
Send message Joined: 26 Jun 08 Posts: 645 Credit: 472,396,898 RAC: 255,608 |
Never satisfied, are ya? :-) Good idea. I'll add it soon. |
Send message Joined: 5 Sep 09 Posts: 7 Credit: 1,497,578 RAC: 0 |
Never satisfied, are ya? :-) I'll try too. But when I can, I like to make think better :) If stats are better, they can attract more people, so the list will grow faster :) Thanks for your jobs. |
Send message Joined: 16 Oct 09 Posts: 46 Credit: 833,166 RAC: 1 |
Is there a way of telling what numbers our PC's are Sieving in each task? e.g 3,562+ SNFS 269.1 or 10,272+ SNFS 272.0 (I got numbers from the Status page) Is it possible to add the % complete to each set of numbers that we are Sieving? This could also be another way of monitoring how fast we are getting the work done. |
Send message Joined: 26 Jun 08 Posts: 645 Credit: 472,396,898 RAC: 255,608 |
The name of each workunit includes the number being sieved. For example, my client is working on the workunits S3p562_352480_0 and S10p272_168743_0 now. The first is for the number 3,562+ sieving a range starting at 352,480,000, and the second is for the number 10,272+ sieving a range starting at 168,743,000. A percent complete for the sieving of each number would be nice. I don't have time to implement it now, but perhaps once the semester is over. It shouldn't be too difficult to implement. |
Send message Joined: 16 Oct 09 Posts: 46 Credit: 833,166 RAC: 1 |
Thanks for your response Greg. Hope the rest of your Semester goes well. At present I'm sieving S10P272_164261. |
Send message Joined: 16 Oct 09 Posts: 46 Credit: 833,166 RAC: 1 |
Greg I've had an idea, could you add a field to server status page to say how many tasks/workunits have been processed for the day updating every couple of hours? This is just an idea this could also help us (crunchers) know when through put has dropped. I'm aware you may not get to this until semester break |